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Interviews
PennyBlackMusic.co.uk:
The 60's were, no matter what anyone says, the golden
time for music. So much good music was being produced.
So much so that many albums and singles, even by well-known
bands, failed to see much chart action or sell as many
copies as was expected.
‘The Everlasting Love Affair’ was the first
album by The Love Affair. In spite of featuring both of
their biggest songs, ‘Everlasting Love’ and
‘Rainbow Valley’, the album didn’t fare
too well. It was always a mystery to me. Not only were
those two classic singles on the album but there were
some very solid interpretations of songs made famous by
their contemporaries plus a few band compositions. It’s
an album I still play today 40 years down the line.
For a young man like me at the time of the album’s
release the main reason The Love Affair were such a big
thing was because of the vocals of lead singer Steve Ellis.
The girls who went to the concerts and screamed so loud
the band couldn’t hear what they were playing were
more interested in how Ellis looked and they couldn’t
really be blamed for that. With his strangely cut short
hair and boyish looks Ellis was the perfect front man
for any band. But for us guys it was his vocals, a blue-eyed
soul singer who could match Marriott, Winwood and all
the others note for note.
Their singles may have been brass heavy with sweeping
orchestral backing from the genius that is Keith Mansfield
but there was more to The Love Affair than a handful of
classic pop singles and a pin-up lead singer. They introduced
many to the songs of the talented Phillip Goodhand-Tait
and actually wrote some pretty good songs within the band.
When the band finally split Ellis started his own band
and found an audience more willing to listen than to scream.
For a while there he was successful but disappeared from
the scene for some time.
Now Ellis is back with a fine collection of songs, ‘The
Best Of Days’, which is a much better set than we
dared hope for. When we look back on the competition Ellis
had in those days it’s sad to see that, even though
many of them are still around, we hear very little from
them and when we do, well, let’s just say it’s
probably best that we are left with our records and memories.
But ‘Best Of Days’ is that exception ; it’s
an album that looks back to former glories while never
losing sight of the fact that those days are gone and
this is, after all, 2008. Ellis has made a comeback of
sorts and for once it appears to have been done for the
right reasons and thankfully he can still belt out a song
some 40 years after we first heard him with that passion
and soul in his vocals still shining through. It’s
no wonder that a number of contemporary musicians have
admitted to Ellis being an influence.
I make no secret of the fact that The Love Affair was
one of my favourite 60's groups. They had the looks, the
songs and had progressed from being just another soul
/ mod / beat band into a number one classic pop group.
And in Steve Ellis they had a front man who had one of
the best blue-eyed soul voices Britain has produced. Their
first album is still played regularly round these parts
and it never fails to move me. I have tried to keep track
of what Steve Ellis has been doing musically through the
years. When given the opportunity to ask him a few questions
about his musical past and plans for the future it was
a chance I couldn’t pass up on.
PB : Your new album, ’Best Of Days’, is out
in September. Are they all recent recordings or have you
been working on them for some time ?
SE : They were mostly all newly recorded a few years
ago in my keyboard player and co producer's garage studio.
It was sectioned off into two and measured about 10ft
x 8ft. I did the vocals in his front room but his Mrs
wouldn`t stand for a drum kit set up by the dining table
so we used samples, which was not ideal but those were
the circumstances presented.
The live version of 'Everlasting Love' was recorded at
Fairfield Hall in Croydon with Paul Weller and Steve Cradock
a few years back. Paul gave me the master and said do
what you want with it. It had been bootlegged on the internet,
so I thought I would put it on as a bonus track and any
monies accrued would go to St Mark's Hospital in London
where my son was an in patient and gravely ill which is
why the release was delayed for several years.
The only other older track included is 'Step Inside'
which quite coincidentally also has Paul playing on it.
We recorded this for the NSPCC children's charity about
ten years ago and released a 1000 copy limited edition
single which sold out, so I thought as it had cost me
a lot of money (and my best guitar which is a long story)
I would slip it onto the album. It is very soulful and
some reviewers have indicated it sounds a bit like the
Style Council, but I can`t see it myself. It is just music
to me. Blame Mr Weller ! He was in that band.
PB : Apart from the obvious cover versions on the album
how many of the songs did you write ? The title song and
‘Little One’ for example could be autobiographical.
SE : It was probably about half of them. Some of them
were written on my own and a couple with co-writers. Rex
Brayley, the original Love Affair guitarist, co-wrote
'Step Inside' some years back .The title track, 'Best
of Days', is indeed sort of autobiographical as you say
and it originally had soundbites on the fade of Muhammad
Ali, Bruce Lee and Kenneth Wolstenholme, but the record
company thought we might get sued. As they were tributes
I thought it unlikely but unfortunately it was pretty
much non negotiable. A real shame.
I wrote 'Little One' for my son many years ago with Darren
Aldridge who is a very talented mate.
PB : How did the live version of ‘Everlasting Love’
with Paul Weller and Steve Cradock come about ?
SE : Paul and I have been mates for twenty five years
or so, but it was quite accidental. Paul was touring 'Wings
of Speed' and had Steve "Slasher" Cradock on
guitar with him. He phoned me and asked if I wanted to
come to the gig, so I went up to Croydon and we did 'Everlasting
Love' and Paul's 'Broken Stones' at the sound check. They
sounded pretty good, so he invited me to do them onstage
at the gig. It was a good vibe that night. The audience
seemed to really love it.
PB : Looking back a little now, when The Love Affair
were at their most popular you were still in your teens.
Did you ever think that say nearly 40 years down the line
you’d still be making records ?
SE : Absolutely not. It was live for the day. You never
think beyond the day when you are a raging hormone full
of teen spirit.
PB : At the time of ‘Everlasting Love’ and
‘Rainbow Valley’ there was a lot in the papers
about the band not playing on their records. It didn’t
seem to damage your popularity, did it?
SE : We did the Jonathan King show on prime time Saturday
night TV. It was 1968. People only had two channels in
the 60`s, BBC and ITV. So half the nation were watching
when King, who was a clever bastard, asked the bass player,
Mick Jackson, if the group actually played on the record.
He knew they hadn`t and that I had sung on it, but utilised
session musicians like the great Clem Cattini on drums.
Anyway the bass player stumbled his way through after
being caught on the back foot. Jonathan King got himself
and us headline news in the Sunday papers and the band
got a bad reputation, but we had been gigging at the all
nighters at places such as the Flamingo the Marquee and
mod clubs everywhere for two years prior to any success.
We earned our stripes in that respect so we just carried
on gigging.
It did not seem to bother supporters at concerts. I hate
the word fans, but they were great about it and people
bought our next five chart records which were all recorded
in the same way. As I have often said it was a bit of
a paradox but we were a good live band. I`m not bragging,
just telling you how it was. We did the Royal Albert Hall
supporting the Small Faces in 1966 before we had any success.
Our drummer was fourteen and the rest of us were sixteen
and we were better musicians than they were, but we rehearsed
every chance we had and would play anywhere for free in
the beginning.Three of us had to go to the home office
to get visas when we played abroad because we were under
age and had to have an adult accompany us. Bizarre or
what ?
PB : The band played on all the songs on their first
album (except those first singles), ‘The Everlasting
Love Affair’, though, didn’t they?
Yeah, sure, stuff like 'Hush', 'Tobacco Road', 'Handbags
and Gladrags' by Mike D`Abo and songs I wrote with Morgan
Fisher that we were doing live. When we were told the
record company wanted an album we put those tracks for
the album down in literally about two days and mixed them.
We were playing pretty much every night and sometimes
twice. We never had the chance to sit down, write an album
and then promote it. Things were different then. We were
worked like dogs and unfortunately what I would call a
proper Love Affair album was never recorded as such. Maybe
if we had been given the opportunity we would have been
taken more seriously by the media at the time and perhaps
stayed together longer. Who knows ? Such is life. I am
afraid we were branded teenybopper and it was a bitter
pill for the band because we kicked arse live. Ask anybody
who saw us play then.
PB : Apart from a few originals on that album it had
its fair share of covers. Songs that were heavily covered
by many bands in those days. Rarely did covers of songs
like ‘Handbags And Gladrags’, ‘The First
Cut Is The Deepest’ and ‘Please Stay’
come up to the standard of the 'hit' versions. But the
Love Affair’s versions were different, mainly, it
has to be said, because of your vocals. Did you personally
have any say in the songs the band recorded for that album
?
SE : It was pretty much as I have already said. We were
already playing those tracks live every night of the week.
They were just good songs that we enjoyed playing on stage.
PB : I always felt that The Love Affair, because of those
hit singles, were never given the recognition they deserved
as a ‘serious’ band. If ‘Everlasting
Love Affair’ had sold more and been promoted more
then I think people would have realised that there was
so much more than those hit singles to the band. Do you
think the band would have lasted longer if you’d
sold more albums ?
SE : I think we would probably have lasted a lot longer
if we had made a decent band album, but as I said the
opportunity never presented itself unfortunately.
PB : You recorded songs for the film ‘Loot’
after you left The Love Affair. How did that come about
?
SE : Keith Mansfield had arranged most of The Love Affair
hits and I got on really well with him, so after I left
the band he phoned me and asked me to do the 'Loot' soundtrack.
It was a great time for me. I was about twenty and I had
all the top session players of the day and people like
Sue and Sunny, Doris Troy and Madeline Bell on backing
vocals. I thought I had died and gone to ------- heaven.
PB : Then came Ellis (the band) and Widowmaker both of
which met with some success. Suddenly you were being taken
more seriously with those bands. Did you ever resent the
fact that The Love Affair initially appealed to a young
audience ? You must have played quite a few shows in those
days where it didn’t matter what you played. It
would have been drowned out by the screaming of girl fans!
SE : When The Love Affair had the big hit with 'Everlasting
Love' live shows went crazy. Girls would tear our clothes
off. We couldn`t go out anywhere for fear of being chased
which at first was quite novel but after a while it was
a nightmare. Once in Belfast we got torn to shreds at
a record shop and all ended up in just our underpants.
We would regularly have scratches all over and chunks
of hair missing. It was pretty weird. No, you could not
hear to much music some nights, but we soldiered on until
it just got in the way of the music which was why we started
playing in the first place. Things got a little out of
kilter and I just thought the best thing to do would be
to call it a day, write some songs and perhaps get another
band together.
After 'Loot' I met up with the legendary Zoot Money again
as we had become good mates through the years. We formed
Ellis (The record company did not like KIN which is what
we called ourselves initially) with great musicians and
cut a good album which Roger Daltrey produced and then
a second album produced by Mike Vernon of Blue Horizon
fame. We toured for two years, but record company politics
pulled the rug from underneath us and we were forced to
fold.
It was an absolute tragedy for me as the band was so
good musically we could pretty well cover all types of
music-blues, jazz, funk, folk and rock. People still love
'El Doomo' so I re-recorded it in an updated style for
'Best of Days'.I loved that band. Repertoire Records are
going to re-issue those albums set later this year on
a two album set, I believe.
Widowmaker was the biggest bunch of misfits put together,a
great live band but as personalities it was the biggest
mismatch ever. We toured the UK and tore up America and
I truly believe we would have broken it so to speak, but
I think we would probably have killed each other in the
process. Don Arden was our manager. Add that to the equation
and it was a recipe for disaster. I left the band as I
did not want to end up being a caricature of a 70`s rock
star. I mean it really was Spinal Tap most of the time.
On stage it was great, off the stage it was insanity.
We played to half a million people in Nelson Ledges in
Ohio, which was unbelievable.
I try and remember the good bits if asked. It helps me
forget the chaos of it all. I am still good pals with
Huw Lloyd Langton and speak to Luther (Ariel Bender) now
and again, but I would never be in a band with Luther
again much as I love him now. We had a fight in New York
after one particularly tiresome argument and I hurt him
really badly. We had to cancel some dates. Mind you, he
did stab me in the back three times. To be honest we were
always going to implode. It was pretty much written on
the wall from the beginning.
PB : Was there ever a time when you thought you would
give up music for good ? You had a horrific accident after
which you didn’t record or tour for ten years or
so. But that happened during a period when you weren’t
working in the music business. So had you already given
up music at that point ? If so what made you return to
it ?
SE : The only reason I got out of it initially was because
Don Arden did not pay my tax bill as promised when we
were away touring the States for nearly four months. When
I got back to England it was too late. I was bankrupt
and I will never forgive that because I had a young family.
They should not have had to pay the price. I moved to
Brighton, recorded a great album and it got shelved again
due to record company politics. Unbelievable !
I threw in the towel. I had a family to support and I
wanted to get fit again so I took a job as a docker. It
was physically hard work, but I worked with a great bunch
of characters. I was athlete fit according to my GP, so
I thought, " Perfect ! Now I can get back to maybe
making some music again", but somebody dropped a
Ryder Forklift Truck blade across my feet and basically
broke and chopped them both in half. That put me in and
out of hospital for many years with pins in my feet, bone
grafts and so on. I took up Wado Ryu Karate during these
years to restore my mobility and got fit again eventually.
About that time an agent phoned and said, "Do you
fancy touring again as Steve Ellis` Love Affair?"
I already had the nucleus of a band, so we gigged right
up until 2000/1 playing festivals, concerts and clubs
with the occasional corporate thrown in to keep the band
playing tight.
We had a lot of fun and played to a lot of people but
sadly Mike Mann our keyboard player( and resident off
stage comedian) died of cancer and the band vibe sort
of went as well. Mike was a real character. He told us
he didn`t have long but wanted to keep playing until he
died.At his funeral hundreds of people stood solemnly
in the church waiting for the coffin to come down the
aisle. What he had kept a secret was the fact that he
had had a coffin especially made in the shape of a keyboard
flight case and people were howling with laughter instead
of tears. That was Mike for you. He even made you laugh
at his own funeral, bless him. After that I decided it
was an album that was needed. This morphed eventually
into the new one, 'Best of Days'.
PB : You’ve ‘hung out’ with some of
the best and well-known musicians of the late 60's / early
70's and have been and are great friends with many of
them and toured with them. Keith Moon, for example, was
a good friend of yours I read. Have you ever thought of
writing a book about your experiences ? It would make
a great read!
SE : Yes, it is written. I wrote it after the band split.
I was writing a book and new songs as well, Very arty
,eh ? Seriously it stops at the end of 2000 and needs
editing and some further work done to finish it.It is
linear but not entirely about the music business. I have
had talks with a few people including Paolo Hewitt and
he seems to be up for finishing it with me. There will
be maybe an interview bit in it as well after each chapter.
I really cannot say yet. It is early days.
PB : How do you feel that through musicians like Paul
Weller your name and music is being kept in the public
eye? It must be satisfying to know that younger musicians
recognise the work you did all those years ago and are
trying to bring your music to a new audience.
SE : First and foremost Paul is my mate. As I said I
have known him for a long time. He is a very talented
man. For me it has always been about the music. I never
made records for money. That is the soft option that leads
to a short career. I always say if I am asked this sort
of question that anybody who picks up a guitar or drumsticks
or whatever and gets a real band together they have my
respect, no matter how bad they are to start with. If
young bands can nick something from me and the music I
make or have made, I am delighted and flattered because
we are all doing the same thing in my book. I learnt from
the old soul and blues & r`n`b singers when I was
a kid, so it is the same thing really in that respect.
PB : Your voice, on ‘Best Of Days’, is still
strong ; you can obviously still hold a tune and still
have that distinctive vocal sound. You’re also looking
pretty well on the album sleeve! What’s the secret
of holding onto that voice after all these years ?
SE : I just keep singing and try to keep my glass half
full, not half empty, no matter what fate throws at me.
The voice is a muscle. It needs exercising but you have
to sing with emotion and feeling. You have got to mean
it. Otherwise people will know you are just going through
the motions. I am back gigging with New Amen Corner after
an enforced lay off at present and loving it. As long
as I enjoy it I will do it and as soon as it feels like
a chore I`ll move along. They are great guys and good
players, but the geography is a bit crap because they
live in Birmingham so rehearsals are a bit awkward as
I live in Brighton. Hope that answers the question .
PB : It’s so good, Steve, to have you back not
only making records but making great records after all
this time. What are your plans for the immediate future
?
SE : To record a new album hopefully and in a proper
studio this time so we can use a real drum kit for starters.
To get the book out and get time to write some more songs
and to keep playing live as long as people want me to.
I am 58. Some mornings I feel 108 but I am still a kid
at heart and when I hear a great record I still get the
same buzz. My weapon of choice is my voice and music is
my occupation.............Thanks for the interview...........Keep
the faith.
PB : Thank you.


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My Favourite 45 by Steve Ellis (Love Affair)
Steve Ellis, legendary singer with the seventies blue
eyed soul band The Love Affair, is back with a brand new
album, ‘Best Of Days’ which includes a new
version of the classic ‘Everlasting Love’
alongside a cover of Paul Weller’s, ‘Brand
New Start’ and brand new compositions. Both, Roger
Daltrey and Paul Weller also appear on the album.
The man behind such perennial Mod club spins such as,
‘Loot’s The Root’ and ‘So Sorry’
took time out from promoting his latest release to tell
RSG! readers about one of his favourite 45s.
“There are numerous great 45`s of the sixties so
many in fact it is impossible to actually make one of
them favourite” say Steve, “So (I’ll
go for) a random shot "Positively 4th Street"
by Bob Dylan”.
“Ironic as my musical tastes lay deeply in Black
Soul & Blues Music because to be honest they have
just got soul, James Brown, Wilson Pickett, Sam &
Dave, David Ruffin, SamCooke, Howlin Wolf, Muddy Waters,
Memphis Slim, Lightning Hopkins, Snooks Eaglin, Ray Charles,
Paul Robeson et al, Tamla Motown, Stax, Oriole, Chess,
Sue. Indefinable but they and hundreds more translated
so much passion and feeling”.
“So for me to pick Bob Dylan is strange I suppose
because Bob is no James Carr or Otis Redding or Etta James.
Bob Dylan is to some a bumbling old man past his best,
to some he is the messiah. Well folks sorry to disappoint
but he is a human being and a great one at that. He has
written so many classics it is ridiculous. Sure The Beatles
and The Stones and to some degree Pete Townsend and The
Who and not forgetting the sadly missed Marriott and Lane
or Ray Davies and The Kinks all major players in the songwriting
dept, in the sixties but Dylan keeps on writing them even
to this day”.
“So back to the plot "Positively" is
a great lyric in that it curses all the people who smile
in your face and stab you in the back so to speak. The
world is full of them but Dylan just brushes them aside
stating "I know just where you’re at, you just
want to be on the side that’s winning". Quality.
I can’t say "The Hurricane " because it
is 70`s but what a lyric......”
“I had a look through my CD’s before I typed
this and the funny thing was I found I owned more Dylan
than any other artist although the rest of the music is
a very mixed bag indeed”.
“So from an old soldier/mod, Dylan takes 1st Prize”.
- Ready-Steady-Go.org.uk
Hey all, better late than never. I recently did an interview
with Steve Ellis about his new album and Small Faces related.
A million thanks to Mark Baxter [Bax] who more than helped
me with the questions, cheers Bax. Plus also thanks to
members of this list for sending a couple of questions
in.....
1/ "Your new album, ’Best Of Days’ ...Are
they all recent recordings or have you been ready to be
released for a while?"
The album was actually recorded a few years ago.However
my son was taken gravely ill consequently it went on the
back burner as my son was far more important for obvious
reasons.During my absence from the music scene it sort
of got bootlegged & was released with a dreadful cover
with rubbish Mastering & incorrect mixes please tell
people not to buy it.The correct/current version "BEST
OF DAYS" is on DEMON" if people are interested.The
other cover was pants (pyschedelic hearts on a river)
it has a different title avoid it at all costs it is technically
a bootleg.
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Sort of Innocence
This is the album mentioned above, which
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2/ "Apart from the cover versions on the album how
many of the songs did you write? Are You constantly writing?"
Probably about half I would say including co-writes.Yes
writing songs for next album but I have never been a prolific
writer as the record shows but I always try & come
up with three or four every album.The next album is going
to be much more up tempo I believe.
3/ "You seem to have a good relationship with Paul
Weller and Steve Cradock. How did you get the invite to
work with Paul?"
Paul & I have been mates for twenty five years so
it is never anything planned.If it happens great I have
a lot of respect for him he is a great song writer.I saw
him at Hammersmith some months back & it was the best
gig/band I have seen him do to date.Steve Cradock I have
also known for ages & I really like the man.
4/ "The Love Affair were very popular when you were
still in your teens, do you feel good knowing you're still
'at it' 40 odd years later?"
I am a musician I always listen out for good singers songs
& so on & if people enjoy what I do Live or otherwise
great I am happy.I don`t really think about the forty
years because I always try & look forward if you like.
5/ "How did you come to record ‘Everlasting
Love’ and ‘Rainbow Valley’, who found
the original versions"
WE had two managers David Wedgebury (house photographer)
& John Cokell who both worked at Decca,this is around
1966/7 they had access to all the imports on The Monument
label.We rehearsed in a factory in Walthamstow & one
night they turned up with "Everlasting Love "
by Robert Knight an american southern soul singer.I loved
it & so we set about putting it down on tape.
6/ "There was controversey regarding the band not
playing on your records, can you put the record straight
so to speak"
None of "Love Affair" played on any of the hits
but I sang on them.We were a good live band but circumstances
were such in that only I was on the records.We were asked
by Jonathan King if we played on our record he knew we
hadn`t.It was Saturday night live T.V. with half the nation
watching.If you want a good laugh go to u-Tube & watch
the clip or go to my website & it is on the homepage
I believe.We all look about 12 years old.
7/ "How did the film ‘Loot’ after you
left the Love Affair come about?"
Keith Mansfield arranged all the "Love Affair"
hits we got on really well over the years so he just phoned
me up & asked if I would like to do it.It has become
a bit of a cult classic & the Soundtrack is quite
sought after apparently.A couple of the tracks have become
Mod D.J. club tracks which is nice!
8/ "You must have some great stories from your life
in the music business, is a book a possibility at some
point?"
I wrote a draft back in 2000 it is linear & needs
some attention to detail some more funnies & updating
Paolo Hewitt might get involved we will have to see how
it pans out.
9/ "What are your future plans Steve?"
As explained after a three year enforced lay off I am
just happy to be out playing live again + get the new
album out on DEMON which is a good label, so onwards &
upwards as they say.
10/ when was the first time you were aware of the small
faces and what was your thoughts
We saw them on the T.V. on TOTPS or something in 1966
& we had just started the band which was then called
"Soul Survivors".Morgan(Hammond player in Love
Affair) Warwick Downes(Bass) & Ian Miller(Guitar)
were Finchley boys Mods basically & we said "we
can do that".We were 16 years old & the drummer
was 14 & "Soul Survivors" supported the
S.F`s at The Royal Albert Hall in 1966. Anyway S.F`s left
DECCA & DECCA signed us with Kenny Lynch writing songs
for us(he wrote Sha La Lee) for S.F`s.We then changed
labels to CBS & the next year we were on TOTP`s with
them. It was a bit like "how the F**k did we manage
that"? Ronnie was a lovely guy & Steve had a
great sense of humour & a great voice & they wrote
some classic songs together.
11/ what's your favourite small faces songs?
Afterglow (or All or Nothing) If I ever sing it, I sing
it for Kay Marriott Steve`s mum who has become a good
friend of mine over the years.Lovely lady but some people
do not seem to comprehend that Steve was her son &
not some legendary pop star.People should have more respect
for that fact she has a lot of dignity & good old
fashioned East End pride which helps a lot.She`s my mate.Funnily
enough I sang "All or Nothing" with Chris Farlowe
at a gig last week.He asked me up onstage & we both
said "This is for Mr.Marriott".We were going
to do Handbags & Gladrags but the band was rocking
& we went for a faster one.Chris has still got a great
voice.
12/ do you keep in touch with the original members of
Love Affair and have you any idea of where they are and
what they are doing?
Not really, Morgan lives in Japan, Mick sells cars Rex
writes songs & Maurice plays drums again after 35
years!
Couple of questions here from members of small faces list....
13/ Hello Steve I'd like to know if, excluding the gigs
with the New Amen Corner, does you have any plans to tour
with your own band to support the new album?
I thought the last CD "A Sort of Innocence"
which came out a couple of years ago had some cracking
tunes on it. Cheers. John Smith
At present I am just happy to be back singing.I think
next year will be more likely to include new songs to
be honest.Amen are a great band & great blokes I am
loving it.
14/ 1971-72 ish Steve was introduced to Caleb Quayes "Hookfoot'
on tour
with Humble Pie as opening act(saw it myself at the Guildford
civic )
He recorded and finished a full album with them which
to my knowledge
still sits in the can ? whats on it and why is it locked
You have a good memory.Caleb Quaye was a pal of mine from
Finchley brilliant guitarist & Hookfoot were a great
band.I did half an album with them & half with Keith
Mansfield it was going to be called "The two sides
of" anyway it was shelved because I formed a band
with Zoot Money & some pals.However I have approached
SONY & they are trying to find the tapes to have a
listen to them.
15/ I believe you were one of the people who organised
the Small Faces first Convention?
Briefly, my pal Dean Powell asked me to help him organise
it .I got my band to act as house band but Mike Mann our
keyboard player was diagnosed with cancer but was hell
bent on doing the gig & sadly passed away soon after
+ we all had flu. Anyway after it was up & running
I left it in the hands of Dean & John Hellier. Some
years Later I did "The Astoria" which was a
brilliant night as Gerry Shirley asked me to & he
had kinda picked things up musically where I left off
in choosing who was on the shows & so forth.I started
it for Steve Marriott, it was to be a one off Tribute
at The Ruskin Arms but it snowballed into a full blown
S.F`s Annual Convention every year thereafter. Dean currently
takes care of Amir Khan & recently promoted "The
Creation" at the 100 Club he`s a good pal of mine.
Cheers Steve, thanks for doing this.....................................Mick/Bax
- Mick Taylor
BRINGING BACK THE GOOD TIMES
Andy Morten interviews Steve Ellis of the 'kicking band'
Love Affair...
LOVE AFFAIR will always be best remembered for the evergreen
"Everlasting Love" which hit the UK No.1 spot
in January 1968. It propelled the five young band members,
including 'ace face' 16-year old vocalist Steve Ellis,
into a whirlwind of superstar-dom and ushered in the sound
of '68 - soul-tinged three-minute pop songs featuring
booming brass, sweeping orchestral backing and the click
of a Fender bass.
The Beatles and The Stones were studio-bound and out
of the public eye. The Who and The Kinks were still struggling
to adjust to the post-psychedelic fall-out. The charts
were dominated by the likes of Tom Jones and Engelbert
Humperdink with their big dramatic, and parent-friendly,
numbers... British pop was in dire need of an injection
of young, sexy stars.
The teenagers who had screamed at The Beatles in 1963
were now dropping acid and writing essays on the transcendental
depths of Sgt Pepper. For the average 13-year old pop
fan buying seven inch singles and the latest edition of
Fab 208 on a Saturday morning, 1967 didn't have a great
deal to offer. But with the arrival of this wave of new
bands in early 1968, pop music temporarily regained its
innocence, gave the kids some pretty faces to plaster
over their bedroom walls and, almost coincidentally, produced
some truly great lasting pop records.
Contrary to the popular preconception that most British
chart music of this era was manufactured by Tin Pan Alley
songwriters and old-school managers, much of it was actually
made by genuine bands - finally achieving some success
and adulation after years of slogging round the provincial
club circuit dreaming of the big time.
The Herd cut several mod/beat singles before achieving
a string of hits including "From The Underworld"
and "I Don't Want Our Loving To Die", establishing
the young Peter Frampton as the face of '68 in the process.
Amen Corner were Welsh blues boys whose third single,
a brass-heavy version of The American Breed's "Bend
Me Shape Me", became the first of four smashes during
1968-69 - no doubt aided by the honey-eyed looks of their
singer, Andy Fairweather-Low.
Marmalade's first hit "Lovin' Things" is possibly
the archetypal '68 British pop record but its makers already
had almost a decade's experience behind them as well as
a string of flop singles including 1967's "I See
The Rain" and "Man In A Shop", which are
now rightly regarded as pop-psych classics.
After five years as a bona-fide R&B act with an almost
unbroken run of hits under their belt, Manfred Mann lost
Paul Jones, gained Mike D'Abo and continued their regular
visits to the top five with the likes of "Ha! Ha!
Said The Clown" and "My Name Is Jack".
Even as their award-winning Ogden's Nut Gone Flake sat
at the top of the album charts during the summer of '68,
those bastions of mod cool the Small Faces retained their
pin-up image of old and were unable to hear themselves
play above the screams of their female fans.
"Baby Come Back" by The Equals, "Build
Me Up Buttercup" by The Foundations, "Jesamine"
by The Casuals, "Yesterday Has Gone" by Cupid's
Inspiration, the list goes on and on... Love Affair will
forever be pigeon-holed alongside these acts - and for
good reason. But there was another side to the band which
remains less well known. So cast those stereotypes to
one side for a moment and let main man Steve Ellis explain
the paradox behind this 'kicking band' that were transformed
into 'teenybop idols'...
SHINDIG!: When and how did you first become involved
in pop music?
STEVE ELLIS: I played drums with two brothers when I
was 13. Started singing when my pal Nigel started playing
guitar about '64. We used to play down at the swimming
pool. There was about a dozen of us, we went around together
dressed in our Levis, deserts and three-button long sleeved
stripey and hoop top things - mod gear basically.
SD: So how did the members of Love Affair get together?
Were you already friends or was the band brought together
through music press 'wanted' ads?
SE: Nigel saw an ad in NME and said I should go to this
audition, after much prompting from all the others. I
knew Morgan (keyboards) as he and his brother used to
come to the clubs with us in Finchley and Barnet in '66.
SD: Is it true that Love Affair got their first break
when drummer Maurice Bacon's dad bought you all the equipment
you needed so that Maurice could satisfy his ambition
of playing in a band?
SE: Maurice's dad was the manager. We were just kids
out for some fun. I remember Decca Records came to rehearsals
and said they loved the band. It was what they were looking
for to follow on in a Small Faces vein as, I think, they
were leaving Decca. Anyway, they told us if we got rid
of the drummer they'd sign us up. Well, Maurice was 14
and not that bad so we rallied and said, 'No!' They still
signed us though. Maurice got some extra lessons from
his uncle Max who was drummer with Ambrose, he was a top
jazz drummer. Anyway, he got better and the band gigged
non-stop at all-nighters such as Tiles, The Flamingo,
Speakeasy, Marquee, coffee bars and mod clubs in Southend,
Brighton and London. We called ourselves The Soul Survivors
and were mostly doing Stax, Motown and Atlantic R&B.
We had a good following. But then the management wanted
us to change our name to Love Affair. I thought it was
a crap name but was out-voted!
SD: The group's live set was dominated by the kind of
soul and R&B covers much-favoured by British mod bands
at the time (eg. The Who, The Small Faces, The Move).
Were you in turn influenced by these bands or any others
you found yourself sharing the bill with?
SE: We played the Albert Hall with the Small Faces in
'66. When they played you couldn't hear anything for the
screaming. We were aged 14 to 16 so we loved The Small
Faces and The Who, but were not directly influenced by
them. They were just like us (when we became Love Affair)
in that they did their hits but the bulk of their sets
were R&B and soul orientated. Ironically, a couple
of years later we played Belfast when the riots were kicking
off in the square. The Small Faces played an open-air
festival about 40 miles away. We all ended up staying
in an 'olde worlde' hotel in the middle of nowhere. We
talked for hours and discovered that we were both doing
a few new numbers like "Every Little Bit Hurts"
and "Gilded Splinters". They had a temporary
brass section and Eddie Tantan and 'Speedy' Aquai on congas.
We were quite envious of that. The Small Faces were more
mod than The Who. The Move were hippies. But they were
lively hippies!
SD: After securing a deal with Decca Records, Love Affair's
first single (a take of the Jagger/Richards penned "She
Smiled Sweetly") was released in mid-1967 but betrayed
little of your hard-edged live sound. Decca have acquired
a reputation as being 'difficult' to work with. The Small
Faces among others left the label around this time. Were
you happy with the way they handled you?
SE: I was honestly too young to know about any of the
goings-on business wise. I hated doing that track. It
wasn't us and we were brow-beaten into doing it.
SD: Muff Winwood (fresh from The Spencer Davis Group,
then in A&R) was blown away by your vocal style and
got the band to record a version of SDG's "Back Into
My Life Again", which was never released. Were you
concerned by this point that the elusive hit single would
never happen or did you still consider yourselves primarily
a live band?
SE: We lived for the day. That track that Mo still has
[on acetate] is pretty good as it goes. Muff was a good
guy but things shifted from Island to CBS and we got the
hit record we wanted and gigged every night. Great!
SD: "Everlasting Love" had already been a US
hit for Robert Knight in 1967 when Love Affair decided
to record a version to be released in the UK before Knight's
came out over here. After one attempt with Muff Winwood
at the controls was deemed unsatisfactory, the track was
re-recorded with CBS hit-makers Mike Smith and Keith Mansfield,
who had you sing but employed session musicians to provide
a more commercial orchestrated sound. This must have come
as a blow to the boys in the band. How did they, and you,
react to this manoeuvre?
SE: The original version by the band was, as I recall,
not bad. The general opinion seemed to be that I should
do it with an orchestra and then give it a Phil Spector-type
production. Obviously I felt odd without the band being
in the studio but it was for the good of all involved.
Two takes and it was done. The band were not too concerned
about this approach to things.
SD: So when the song rocketed to the number one spot
a few weeks later, you figured you'd done 'the right thing'?
SE: It just seemed like a dream - it was surreal. We
had tried so hard for the elusive hit that when we got
it we were all in a state of shock. We'd done the clubs
for two to three years previously so 'every good boy deserves
favour'!
SD: Steve, you were just 16 when "Everlasting Love"
hit number one. I can barely begin to imagine what it
must have been like to be the face in a hugely successful
pop band at that age in the late '60s. With all the buzz
of the music business, beautiful girls recognising you
in the street, the 'devil-may-care' attitude to drink
and drugs, the whole 'Swinging London' thing, are there
any episodes which you particularly remember?
SE: I'm going to write a decent book, hopefully with
John Reed, about then up until now. To answer your question:
it just felt like the ultimate high. We were playing every
night and girls were ripping us apart - which, silly as
it may sound, became a real pain as it got in the way
of the music and people were getting hurt at concerts.
As for drugs, some of us took dexys and some dope after
gigs. It just seemed like everyone did. We never took
acid, although I did some years later. Overrated, I reckon.
Mescaline was good for rehearsing but I grew away from
all that. As for cocaine - over-priced, overrated, damaging
crap. I had a fling with it but it made me ill. I packed
all drink and drugs up in 1978.
One story that always makes me laugh was when a hotel
we stayed at in Scotland was literally stormed by girls.
They were up the drainpipes and across the rooftops. We
were hiding some of them in our rooms when the police
turned up, big blokes. One of the band was getting a bit
carried away in a wardrobe with a girl. This policeman
the size of a doorframe opens the wardrobe and said member,
stark naked, jumps onto the copper's back, smiling like
a loon. I thought, "God, we've had it this time!"
However, this copper was brilliant, he just threw him
off like a rag doll, and said, "Behave, laddy!"
I don't know who was more freaked out, the band member
or the copper. Anyway, they said, "Enough, or you're
all in big trouble." So the girls were all escorted
out. Did we give the (naked) band member some stick the
next day. "Like big policemen as well do we, eh?"
and similar jibes. All in good fun... Too many funny stories
to relay here though.
SD: Your image at this point, particularly the crewcut
hair with that straight fringe, went against the prevailing
trend of flowing locks and kaftans. There was probably
only you and Julie Driscoll doing this in 1968. Was this
your own style and if so, did you get people trying to
change the way you looked?
SE: In an interview one time in Record Collector magazine
I told them that basically I had an outgrown crew-cut
and on tour I just razor-cut the front. Nobody said anything.
After the first hit we wore the usual mod-type stuff.
I hated all those stupid frilly shirts. I was mod 101%.
That's why I had a crew-cut. As for Julie Driscoll, I
loved her. She was/is beautiful. But the haircuts were
coincidental.
SD: Love Affair went on to score another two top ten
smash hits in 1968 with "Rainbow Valley" (another
Robert Knight cover) and the irresistible "A Day
Without Love", (written by Philip Goodhand-Tait).
Tait also contributed tracks to the band's debut album
at the end of the year and penned the two 1969 hits "One
Road" and "Bringing On Back The Good Times".
He was a talented songwriter with a knack for coming up
with memorable, highly commercial material. Who was he
and how did you get involved with him?
SE: Phil was the singer/keyboard player in The Stormsville
Shakers, an early '60s soul band in the style of Chris
Farlowe. He was class. Anyway, we got chatting after a
gig he did in London. The upshot was that he turned up
at rehearsals one day with our manager. He submitted some
songs and he sort of became a sixth member but he didn't
tour with us. I loved his voice. He would ask, "What
do you think of this song?" It just evolved from
that really.
SD: The first album, "The Everlasting Love Affair",
was released in late 1968 but despite including the first
three hits it didn't sell as well as might be expected.
This was the era of bands being deemed either 'singles
bands' or 'album bands'. (Check The Hollies around this
time as an example of a group getting singles in the top
five but having excellent albums - like Butterfly - ignored).
Do you think this was the case with Love Affair or did
CBS just not bother to promote it?
SE: I truly don't know what happened. There was no big
album campaign and just hardcore supporters bought it.
Shame, as in retrospect the live studio tracks like "Hush"
captured what we were about without the orchestra. Love
Affair were a kicking band but we were labelled teenybop
idols and it just stopped people taking us a bit more
seriously. Very disheartening for me and the band at the
time.
SD: Apart from the singles, the group play on the rest
of the album and the tightness gained from years of club
gigs is in evidence on your rip-roarin' takes of contemporary
songs like "Hush", "Sixty Minutes of Your
Love" and "Handbags And Gladrags". Your
voice is excellent throughout and the whole thing comes
across like a hybrid of The Small Faces, Spencer Davis
Group and early Deep Purple. Of the 15 tracks, only three
are written by band members (including the hilarious cockney
sing-a-long "A Tale Of Two Bitters"). How important
was the songwriting, or were you happy doing other people's
songs?
SE: Morgan and I wrote together but it was early days
in that department. One of the first songs we wrote together
was the b-side of our first Decca single. I remember with
some pride playing with Geno Washington and the Ram Jam
Band at the Starlite, Greenford. Geno came up to me and
said, "Did you write that track 'Satisfaction Guaranteed'
that you played tonight?" It was unbelievable when
Morgan and I said yes. Geno asked if he could record it
- it blew us away!
Anyway, so Phil became the writer for A-sides and Morgan
and I wrote the B-sides, with the band putting in their
bits as well. Rex and Mick wrote some good songs. Rex
(Brayley) still does. We still write together. Morgan
lives in Japan now. I'd love to see him after all these
years.
SD: There was some controversy when it came out that
you hadn't played on your singles. It was (and still is)
common practice for record companies to use session musicians
to save time and money in the studio. The confident group
performances on the album prove that you were more than
capable of playing on your records if you'd been allowed.
You ended up having to defend yourselves against critics
who'd never even bothered to come and see you play live.
How did you feel being in that position?
SE: The Love Affair recorded "Everlasting Love"
at Island with Muff Winwood producing, but nobody thought
it was a single. Another session was booked and I did
it on my own with a big orchestra, Clem Cattini on drums,
Herbie Flowers on bass [please see note - Ed] and Sue
and Sunny on vocals. It turned out great and consequently
all the A-sides were made in this way and the sort of
hybrid soul/pop we achieved became our sound. Unfortunately
it didn't marry up live. As I said before we were a kicking
band. Morgan could not feasibly achieve the sound of a
40-piece orchestra with a Hammond organ, but we banged
them together and rocked them up a bit for gigs. A bit
of a paradox that one.
SD: It's amazing now to realise just how successful Love
Affair were. By the end of 1968 you were outsold only
by The Beatles. Most of the group's time was spent in
a whirlwind of package tours, TV, radio, press and general
'60s pop madness. You must have played with and met many
other pop people around that time. Who do you most remember
as being great bands/nice guys/nutters?
SE: Great bands: Spencer Davis Group, The Who, The Stones,
The Move, Geno Washington, Sonny Childe & TNT, Jimmy
James, Terry Reid, Small Faces, Zoot Money, Chris Farlowe
and loads of US acts. Nice guys: Chris Farlowe, Terry
Reid, The Who, Geno, Amen Corner, Status Quo, Barry Gibb,
Barry Ryan, Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Wonder. Too many to mention.
Nutters: We were all nutters! You have to be to get on
in the music business, especially in the '60s. Mad as
a shit-house queue!
SD: By the end of 1969 Love Affair had notched up five
big hit singles. Your faces beamed from every pop magazine
in the land and adorned the walls of thousands of teenage
girls. However, your most recent single "Baby I Know"
had faltered and the band seemed doomed to remain in the
teenybop domain while all around you your contemporaries
were either embracing the progressive trends of the period
or simply calling it a day. You quit the band during a
live show at the end of the year (as Steve Marriott had
done with the Small Faces the previous year). What were
the reasons for making the break?
SE: Love Affair was trying to change direction. "Baby
I Know" was a good single and moved away from the
hit formula. We were a good band but we had a lot of trouble
adjusting to screamers - I don't mean to knock those fans
but we couldn't hear ourselves on stage and it drove a
wedge down the middle. The majority of the band had had
enough, to be frank. I love music but it was not about
music any more.
And so "Baby I Know" was a watershed - it charted
briefly but we knew we were onto a loser. It was a catch
22 situation. Also some disagreements arose about money
owed to us, the usual '60s dilemma. I told the boys, "Newcastle,
and I'm gone." So when we finished the set I said,
"Goodbye, I enjoyed the trip, so to speak."
SD: The first post-Love Affair solo stuff I'm aware of
is your contribution to the soundtrack of the 1970 film
adaptation of Joe Orton's Loot. The album features some
great heavy pop numbers like "Loot's The Root"
and "More" (probably arranged by either Keith
Mansfield or Alan Hawkshaw - I only have it on tape) which
sound like the direction you might have taken had you
stuck with Love Affair. How did you get involved and what
was your contribution (apart from your great singing of
course!)?
SE: Loot was a great film. I was asked to sing the soundtrack.
Of course the Keith Mansfield link threw the public. It
was music for a film and, no, Love Affair would not have
gone that direction. It was a bit jazzy. I enjoyed it
and that's all there was to it. As for the singles, I
personally could not see the point, even though they were
okay. It was record company/film company marketing.
SD: During the early '70s you formed the band Ellis and
subsequently Widowmaker with Luther Grosvenor from Spooky
Tooth. Tell us about this period.
SE: The first band was Ellis, which I formed with long-time
pal Zoot Money. A great band. We toured relentlessly and
played to packed universities and so on. I had finally
cut the album I wanted to achieve but the record company
did not give it the necessary promotion. After two years
hard touring we became despondent. Coincidentally, the
record company wanted me to drop the band and go solo.
The band discussed the dilemma and decided to split. It
was a tragedy for me as the band was so good.
Sometime later, Luther Grosvenor and Paul Nichols turned
up at my house. We went out for a drink and they asked
me to be their singer. I went to rehearsal and pulled
Huw Lloyd Langton in from Hawkwind. (He's a good pal of
mine). We played and it was awesome, so I joined. Widowmaker
was seriously hard rock, not heavy metal. We played and
toured with ELO, The Who, Little Feat, just about all
the great bands of the '70s. We were totally anti-record
company business, proper punks in every sense - except
we could play! We fought and argued but I'm still pals
with Luther.
On stage we were great but we started to crack from constant
touring and living out of each other's pockets. I came
back from the States with Huw (the others stayed in LA)
after a three-month tour and we had £5 between us
for a cab home. I said, "F**k this, Huw, I'm out
of here." Don Arden took me to court but he lost.
I was the first person to do that, I think it shocked
the pants off him. He had manacled Steve and the Small
Faces and Andy and Amen Corner. They warned me about him
but it was 'live for the moment'. Widowmaker should have
been massive. I will never forgive Don Arden but what
goes around comes around.
SD: You ended up living at Tara House, Keith Moon's infamous
residence, in the early '70s. According to Tony Fletcher's
"Dear Boy", you two were quite close for a while.
What was your life like around this time?
SE: No, not Tara exactly - 'Hippo Hall' we named it.
It was similar to Tara but smaller. I wanted to buy it
but for reasons left out it transpired that although he
had paid for it, it was not in Keith's name. Keith said
I could stay there for as long as the paperwork takes
to be put in order. Consequently I lived there rent-free
as Keith would not take a penny from me. I think those
days were very crazy and I loved Keith like a brother.
He was a mad sod but he was a great friend.
SD: You gave up drink and drugs when Moon died in 1978,
didn't you?
SE: When he died I cried probably for the first time
since I was a kid. It affected me so badly I lost the
plot for a while and hit the bottle big time. One day
I looked at myself in the mirror and thought, 'Sort yourself
out son.' Coming off the booze was hard but it was worth
it. I still miss Keith but a lot of the stories are bollocks.
Ask Roger Daltrey what Keith was like. Roger is still
one of my best pals but he's an actor now so I don't see
him so much.
SD: What have you been up to since?
SE: Shortly after all this I did a solo album with an
all-star cast called The Last Angry Man - but it was shelved
due to a row between the producers. A real shame. I had
a bad accident in 1981 and was out of the business for
ten years. Since 1991 I've been back touring as Steve
Ellis's Love Affair.
SD: You must be excited about getting back on the road
with the band and the impending release of your new album.
You have one or two star guests appearing with you, I
believe.
SE: Yep, new band, new album - here we go again!
SD: What music do you listen to now and what keeps you
motivated?
SE: I listen to anything decent. Music motivates me.
As do my friends, of whom I'm fortunate to have quite
a few, and my family.
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